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    Warframe PSA: Spoiler Formatting for the New War

    December 16, 2021

    Warframe PSA: Spoiler Formatting for the New War

    PSA: Spoiler Formatting for the New War

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 07:54 AM PST

    Hey Tenno!

    We're really excited to be riding along with you guys in the latest update. This is our courtesy post that Spoiler Formatting is now aggressively active for discussions regarding the story in the latest update.

    • For titles, begin the title with [Spoiler] and don't put the actual spoiler content in the title.

    • For comments, use:

    • [Spoiler:](#s "Text") which will appear as Spoiler:

    • >!Text!<, which will appear as Text

    Any posts we find that do not follow these rules will be removed for incorrect spoiler formatting.

    That being said, the comments section of this post is free to discuss the story as well!, readers who dare wander below, beware!

    As usual, this will be enforced for 10 days after the last platform has received the update, which will ideally just be in 10 days.

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    [BUG MEGATHREAD] - Update 31: The New War

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 08:08 AM PST

    Hey Tenno!

    With New War released and ongoing, it's also time for the all-important bug megathread!!!

    Here's what we will need from you guys:

    • the platform where you are experiencing the bug (PC/PS/XBOX/SWITCH/MOBILE).

    • the bug, can be a video or an image, you may upload it through sites like imgur.

    • if there is ways to reproduce the bug, please show the steps.

    also submit any necessary map issues with F6 button screenshots through this official logs/metadata support desk ticket link.

    Thank you all!

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    The New War Appreciation Thread

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 01:52 PM PST

    Well done guys!

    I seriously wish I could be part of a standing ovation for you guys on this masterfully done quest.

    I loved exploring the different areas, I loved the different playstyle and I absolutely loved the story and how incorporated warframe gameplay as a whole felt. You made this 8 year veteran proud <3

    Thank you so much for the visual and narrative experience and the rewards. This is the a huge bump in quality I have come to expect from you guys.

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    Be wary, comments may have spoilers!

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    [Spoiler] Ok, good to know that not even a full scale interplanetary invasion woke this thing up.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 11:19 PM PST

    when the quest comes out today but you're too busy to play

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 09:44 AM PST

    [SPOILER] Found crucial detail in New War ending

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 03:07 PM PST

    What a nice skin! Wait a minute..

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 08:17 PM PST

    This took forever to get here, but it did. On the release of the New War, no less!

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 05:26 PM PST

    [SPOILER] After years of waiting, finally

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 04:01 PM PST

    [Spoiler] Made the old man a shrine. He seemed like the sort of person that appreciated a good waterfall.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 07:09 PM PST

    Advice for New war: do not pick Wukong.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 08:28 PM PST

    It's hilarious to see the twin in VERY intense cutscenes. He just aim his gun and sometimes shoot at people when they are talking.

    Just a piece of advice.

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    (Spoiler-ish? Kinda. Shows a cutscene late in TNW) made this as i got up to this point

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 02:06 PM PST

    [Spoiler] I wish we could select this mechanic back

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 08:34 PM PST

    I'm talking about when you play drifter before you get your void powers back. Being able to use the pistol and bow with the 3 tactical abilities was so god damn cool to me and I personally loved it. I'm all for using just the operator In missions. I just wish there was an option to switch back to that style. I can understand why there isn't though. Im glad I got to experience it. I hope duviri paradox lets us keep it that way. Is there anyone else that shares my thought?

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    My roombas are the true victors of the New War:

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 06:10 PM PST

    [SPOILER] My biggest problem with Post New War content.

    Posted: 16 Dec 2021 02:49 AM PST

    First off: I loved the New War story. It scratched the very specific itch of Scifi Dystopia that I love.

    But after the story everything returns to the status quo without even a throw away line to justify it. This was a system wide event with massive ramifications. I was expecting the characters of Fortuna or Cetus to at least have a piece of dialogue acknowledging the events (especially since Fortuna got such a drastic redesign) but no. Nothing.

    It just feels surreal to be talking to Eudico about how big bad Nef is at it again, when a worst dictator's banners are still hanging up all around her.

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    [SPOILER] The "What the Hell" Scene is just golden and very exploitable for memes. Good thing I had it recorded.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 08:33 PM PST

    [Spoilers] Okay first of all, why would you say this to me.

    Posted: 16 Dec 2021 01:46 AM PST

    [Spoiler] anyone else notice this Easter egg?

    Posted: 16 Dec 2021 02:45 AM PST

    During the railjack scene when you use your forward artillery to hit the sentient ship, Cephalon Cy says "Great shot kid, that was one in a million!" Which is a direct quote from star wars when Luke hits the exhaust port on the death star. I didn't manage to get a screen cap so I was wondering if anyone else noticed. I have no idea if it was intentional, I just thought it was kinda cool/funny.

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    Who Would You Choose To Represent The Series In Crossover Games?

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 10:12 AM PST

    Made something to send to your crush

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 01:44 PM PST

    This hits different

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 01:22 PM PST

    [Spoiler] Why am I not surprised...

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 10:58 PM PST

    [SPOILER] Stalker enjoying the show.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 11:12 PM PST

    [SPOILER] I accidentally took this screenshot of Veso and

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 08:46 PM PST

    when you log on for the update after a long break

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 05:03 PM PST

    [Spoiler] Having finished it, there's one thing I think should be said about the narrative of The New War

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 02:50 PM PST

    And that is that DE did not play it safe.

    We were thrown a bit of a curveball: we thought we would be getting a multi-arc war story, told from the narratives of several different factions. But that was a slight misdirection on the part of DE, and the scenes we got with Kahl 175, Veso and Teshin were pretty much the ones we had already seen. They were act 1 of this story and nothing else.

    But then, what we actually got was something very different. The "war" was over in a day. Instead, we embarked on a personal journey of self-discovery, of saving our mother, or defying a cruel and petty narcissist and rejecting his philosophy.

    DE didn't give us huge armies and cool explosions. Instead they gave us dialogue, characters, emotional bonds, breakthroughs. They gave us an intimate personal journey, a story of individuals.

    That being said, they also gave us a final confrontation BY THE SURFACE OF THE SUN, so there were obviously some huge cinematic set-pieces as well.

    Looking back on it, I think I veer on the side of positive. I think I enjoyed it this way. I'm gonna need a couple of days to collect my thoughts, and I'm gonna need to analyze parts of the story to truly wrap my head around what exactly happened... But I applaud the devs for taking a big risk with this one narratively. They did NOT give people what they were expecting, instead they gave us something completely different.

    For that reason though, I also think in the coming days that The New War will turn out to be somewhat divisive in the community. I think there will be people who truly were expecting and wanting a galactic battle, and they might feel snubbed by what we actually got. Personally though, I draw a parallel to Star Wars: I think the lightsaber duels in the original trilogy, that are between two individuals and represent their growths as characters, are much more exciting than the lightsaber battles in the prequels that are just about cramming as many lightsabers as possible on the screen at the same time. So, I think this version of The New War is much more interesting than just a huge space battle. There's more to talk about here, than if it had just been a huge space battle.

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    [Spoiler] Confused by the narrative? Here's a plot(hole) discussion, and spoiler place to vent.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2021 05:35 PM PST

    No it's not you, from a narrative perspective it's a nonsense mess.

    To keep it brief, I'm going to restrain myself to the big, planet-sized, plot holes. Stuff of the does-not-compute variety. If there are other items that you need answered, I'll try to reply.

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    After we got stabbed, what happened to all the other Tenno? Canonically, there's at least a few hundred Tenno running around, even if it's not clear how many have "woken up" as Operators. We, a singular Operator, was taken out of action.

    The quest seems to pretend they don't exist, as evidenced by Nora's dialogue and much more. Further, it seems easy for a powered operator to remove the masks, which only solidifies that no other Operators could be active for Drifter's actions to be considered notable to Nora.

    .

    Drifter, as an alternate version of our Operator, could have worked, but not as written. "The version of you that never got void powers" [paraphrased]. Dude, the Tenno are centuries old. If you never got powers, you would have never been a Tenno, and would have died a millennia ago. I don't understand the urge to age-up the Operators (DE really wants to prep for Duviri), but nothing about who the Drifter is, how they came into possession of the Operator's ships, ect, makes any sense. Even with the paradox being accepted, it's a joke.

    It's clear that DE had no way to explain how Drifter started, or came into the story, so they don't even try. A huge time-skip (that both seems to be years into the future but no one else ages), does not hide that nonsense. How did Drifter and Ordis even meet? Did he poof inside our ship when Operator was stabbed?

    .

    The Zamarin. Oh dear. One of the biggest bits of lore, the events of which changed Orokin history forever. Yet somehow the Zaramin is just... sitting there. We can just fly on over to this millennia old relic at a whim. If that was possible, every bit of that ship would have been dissected and studied. The idea that it was just untouched after all those wars, to the point that we can reclaim our old light, is beyond belief. Drifter was literally eating scavenged food from within the ship. One multi-existing person/paradox could have worked, but not that.

    That this is how DE decided to show off the Zaramin? DE wasted their one shot. The flashbacks added nothing we didn't already know, and the inciting incident for the entire game is now a joke. Even Baro should have picked it clean by now.

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    Why does Ballas have command of the Sentients? The whole, "was pretending to be a slave," if actually canon, (I can't really tell, yall are reading a whole lot from one leash-drop) is serious cringe. Even if it was a mutual agreement, it's mindblowing that it would even be possible for Erra, a Sentient invader come to destroy the Origin System, to somehow surrender control of the entire invasion force to one of the most hated Orokin ever. Even with the retcon that Ballas leaked info to Hunhow, it does not work, at all. Erra should be ripping off Ballas' head after everything he did, especially to Natah.

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    Why, after getting what he wants, does Ballas decide to kill the entire system via sun-eating and travel to Tau? Where a civilization of Orokin-hating Sentients live? This one just gets me. They needed to write some reason for Ballas to eat the sun, but it's like they intentionally chose the one thing that he would actively not do. Even picking a random, new system for a "fresh start" would have made much more sense.

    Erra, flipping to help the Tenno in the 11th hour, only to also be on that exact ship, is itself a rather annoying plothole. It honestly would have been better if he just peaced out with a splinter group of Sentients, remaining a threat. The visual image of a Sentient leader needing to do the 'heroic rubble lift while you go ahead', and suffer an ambiguous death, kinda made me ill. The same space-magic lifeform that was just blasting away rubble that blocked the path during the gameplay portion. Physically bending down and struggling to lift a pillar like a gorilla. Complete nonsense, because DE needed a quick "reason" to leave the necramech and Erra behind before reaching Ballas.

    And (for my sanity) last of all, the conclusion. We saw that Ballas doesn't need to be there for the face-masks to convert people. They have their own factories and systems that slap the masks onto people without Ballas needing to do anything. The system should be completely full of a new, dominate faction. There's no time skip after the quest. It's been ? years for said group to be completely entrenched. Most of the Sentient invaders should still be around, too. Instead, Teshin is (presumed) dead, and no one else was affected by an entire war. Nakak, the young girl, has not aged a day. What was supposed to be a paradigm-shifting capital W War against an invasion fleet hundreds of years is the making, is reduced to joke.

    Soooo, yeah. No biggie. Still fun to play, just can't really turn my brain off. Anyone have a few burning questions they want to share?

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