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Understanding the Chat Moderation Scandal and the community's hunt for blood
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The enemies AI path at LITH defence on Earth is just garbage
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Warframe Weekly Off-Topic Thread | Share Whatever You'd Like!

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 07:32 AM PST

Hello, Tenno! Today is Top(ic)-less Tuesday!

Your comments need not be related to Warframe; you can post memes, personal stories, or anything else that wouldn't normally fit within the Relevance Rule. We will still be enforcing the Golden Rule in this thread.

^{Credit goes to /r/DestinyTheGame for this weekly thread series!}

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We Accept This Memory And Move Beyond Its Reach

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 06:20 PM PST

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Rahetalius' Response to DE

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 07:33 PM PST

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How is AGGP still a partner/allowed to play the game after heavily insulting a viewer on stream?

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 11:49 AM PST

Clip in question

Disagreeing with someone is one thing, Insulting them over a disagreement is another.

Instead of being helpful, guiding and an example of what a good player should be and teaching them the thing they got wrong correctly, AGGP went out of his way to attack the person in question.

If calling someone Dumb 1x, Dumbass 4x, Bitch 5x, stupid 2x, piece of shit 2x doesn't get you removed from the game, what does?

Toxicity to such a high degree should not be tolerated in this community and it's a real shame to see this go without consequences.

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Another take on Gray Fox

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 07:22 AM PST

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Warframe but its a fanmade game

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 11:18 PM PST

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My way to deal with Toxic people

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 10:18 PM PST

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My Mesa Prime Cosplay

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 08:01 AM PST

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Nova

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 06:32 PM PST

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Just your casual relic opening with Mirage in your team. And yes, my eyes are ok, they stopped bleeding a while ago. I'm not actually mad, it was pretty funny.

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 05:39 PM PST

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The first toxic guy I've ever seen (blue)

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 05:34 PM PST

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People are being incredibly toxic to the remaining chat mods in Region Chat in NA over the past 24 hours.

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 11:24 PM PST

I mean like people are purposely trying to bait mods now and shit. We are a much better community than this. Play the game, help nooblets, be positive. Be awesome to each other. Work with each other instead of against.

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Understanding the Chat Moderation Scandal and the community's hunt for blood

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 06:46 AM PST

To sum up this entire post, I'm attempting to understand the Chat Moderation Scandal and the community's hunt for blood because of it (with the refusal to accept anything else).

I've watched Rahetalius' video and with a Warframe account that's over 6 years old, I've dealt with my fair share of bad chat moderators (and guides of the lotus). I'm fully aware of the poor actions made by these moderators because I've dealt with it myself first hand. It's not acceptable and it obviously needs a change.

Then we received the news forum post "Chat moderation Changes and Additions". This post let us in on a few details of what was changing to Chat Moderation in Warframe (since December 5th):

Moderation messages are now sent through system messages rather than private messages so that they are not overlooked.

Improved logging of Chat Moderator action.

Increased staffing for Chat Moderator management.

They also let us know within that post:

We have posted an official Warframe Volunteers webpage that details our volunteer teams here: https://www.warframe.com/community/volunteers. Included is the "Chat Moderator Code of Conduct" that provides a synopsis of their responsibilities, the rules that govern Chat Moderator conduct, and a breakdown of what Chat Moderators are permitted to action on in chat, along with an established way for people to report / counter-claim any manually actioned chat bans/kicks.

With established guidelines, we are addressing the many issues we've had in the past with communicating with Chat Moderators and the Community on what Chat Moderation is for Warframe. Essentially, we want everyone to be on the same page so that when issues arrive, everyone understands the outcome of manually actioned bans / kicks.

Chat Moderators messages will no longer appear in purple text. In the future, this will be reserved exclusively for Warframe Staff to continue communication efforts and ultimately assure that any relevant information is shared from established sources.

We have hired a team of professional Chat Moderators to assist with Chat Moderation in the PC English chat. They will begin moderating Wednesday, December 19th, and will do so adhering to the Chat Moderator Code of Conduct.

We will perform continuing reviews and training of the Chat Moderation team to make sure that everyone moderates in a consistent way. This will involve a lot more time with DE-staff leading training and feedback sessions, as well as other internal processes to help facilitate coordination within the team.

To me, this is big reveal in terms of communication. We know that messages won't be overlooked because they'll be properly logged and there's also a few kicks in there that knock the moderators down a peg (by removing the purple text). We also know that there's proper training going across the moderation team and the code of conduct is going to be made a lot clearer to them. Now the only problem I could find with this is if DE lied. Did we have chat moderators who still ran rampant with their own views and desires? Were people still getting kicked relentlessly for no reason? I'm not sure, but I never had any chat issues after these changes (let me know if you did). DE posted a follow up in another thread called "Chat Moderation Changes and Additions Report". We received some new stats on the moderation process:

Right now, moderation has looked like this (all actions on all platforms combined):

82% of moderation action came from Kickbot

17% from volunteers and hired staff

We also learned what some of the problematic users were banned for (image). To me, these bans were justified because I find that these messages weren't something you should be screaming in Region Chat. Most people tend to forget that you're capable of saying anything and everything in Squad and Clan chats as those aren't regulated. Personally, if you feel like getting goofy and saying jokes like these (if they're jokes) you should keep it in those channels anyway. Not in Region Chat. I do not see where these messages were banned because oversensitiveness. This may be where I disagree with a lot of people, but I want to make it obvious so I can discover what I'm missing here.

So far (in the past couple of months), we've received a lot of details and insight pertaining to the Chat Moderation system and the changes it was receiving. While I do agree on more transparency in terms of how specific moderators are changing, I completely understand why they don't offer that personal information.

From what I understand, the biggest finger is pointed at [DE]Danielle. Apparently she's responsible for hiring all of these moderators who had an awful past of moderation and she's also responsible for Bear who is the newly hired Chat Moderation lead (correct me if I'm wrong here). I guess the fear here is that Bear would condone the actions made (in the past) by moderators like Misan or Server because of his relationship with [DE]Danielle. Now I absolutely understand this fear, and excuse me if I'm absolutely wrong here, but I've only seen a positive change to the moderation system since Bear was hired on. I've heard of certain moderators stepping down from their roles since then, but I don't have any exact references and I think it's beside the point. Beyond that, I've seen no players with authority issues using purple text and I've never received a chat ban thus far. I don't feel like I have to watch out for the oversensitive when I'm hanging out in the Larunda Relay. Let me know if you've experienced this differently since December 5th, because it'll help me with my confusion here.

Now from my understanding (from what I've listed so far), the community is just out for blood. To them (us), the system will only be fixed once DE actively comes out and lists the names of these moderators and punishes (fires) them publicly. The community has no interest in learning that these moderators have changed their ways and they're under strict regulation now. The community doesn't care if the system is on its way to becoming appropriate for every player because they feel the only way it can be fixed is with those moderators (confirmed) removed.

With Rahetalius' new video, it seems that the community wants more blood (or a different kind). Not only do they want the moderators changed, but they want DE to acknowledge their faults on the matter because it's obvious that these problems route from more than just one person. Again, just as before, the change is irrelevant if the team doesn't properly apologize for everything. Bettering the system at this point will not satisfactory. The community still wants blood.

So this post and thread is just a simplified synopsis of how I understand everything going on with the Chat Moderation scandal. My question for you is; am I absolutely wrong? Did I miss something entirely? Am I out of the loop? Does the community want blood or a better system (or both)? Is the community justified in this? Make it easier for me (and other players out of the loop) to understand what's going on. Why is DE the big bad? What are they doing that's so wrong?

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[Captura] King Ramses

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 06:04 AM PST

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The enemies AI path at LITH defence on Earth is just garbage

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 02:37 AM PST

Am I the only one who noticed it? they can't climb up to the defence point so you have to go around and hunt them, this makes it one of the slowest and most annoying defence missions ive ever seen

yes no one plays there and you can run a global whipeout frame considering how low their levels is, but new players do play there and their options are limited so it's not an excuse to have such horrendous and lazy AI pathing, 6-8 minutes for 5 waves is a waste of time

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Been doing profit taker for the first time today and I've gotta say DE can do a lot of things but boss fights is not one of them

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 09:49 AM PST

It's just straight up garbage, constant damage from all possible directions, knockback that hits you even in the void, homing missiles that can bring anything but a tank spec to it's knees in one volley and so many high level adds that you will never, under any circumstances, have a chance of actually avoiding damage.

It's really disappointing that their approach to boss fight design can still be most easily summed up as a clusterfuck with dps and heal gates. There's no skill beyond quick weapon swaps and not staying still, there's no telegraphing of attacks that you can react to, the adds spawn so fast that killing them is pointless even though they can easily take down any frame that isn't Inaros if you sit still for more than two seconds.

I had heard it was a mess but it's like they don't even play test it, bosses are supposed to be the best part of a game but in WF they're just a boring, frustrating chore that you either do full meta or not at all. And comparing Profit Taker to Eidolons it's apparently it's only going to get worse.

Not looking forward to Expoliter or the Flydolon at all after today.

/rant

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TennoCon 2019 Exclusive Armor Set

Posted: 26 Feb 2019 02:04 PM PST